FIA Faces Pressure as F1 Stewards Seek Quick Fix to Track Limits Issue
Nov.10 - Formula 1 stewards have ruled that the controversial and often farcical 'track limits' issue needs to be solved.
It comes after the governing FIA rejected Haas' request for a revision to the US GP results, with the American team having compiled a lengthy dossier of track limits violations that went unnoticed and unpunished in Austin recently.
Referring to onboard footage from all the cars competing in the race, team boss Gunther Steiner had declared before the hearing: "We have clear evidence.
"I'm no fan of this rule with the track limits. But if there are rules, then everyone has to follow them."
In a five-page finding, however, the stewards explained that they will not be revisiting the US GP results.
"We'll spare you the official details," Auto Motor und Sport correspondent Andreas Haupt said. "Essentially, the stewards decided that Haas' evidence was insufficient and, in the most part, not new."
But the stewards have now asked Formula 1 to consider a better solution to the entire 'track limits' controversy that can be "rapidly deployed" for 2024.
The FIA officials suggest "better technology solutions, track modifications ... or a different regulation and enforcement standard".
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All permanent tracks should just start using the brown-ish surface material used in Bahrain as that's both effective & safe.
Rather than change any thing keep it exactly as it is, but those who break the rule get 3 seconds off their time, so a least they have a time. this would be a positive, rather than spend time and money on other solutions. As fans we want all the drivers to be in with a chance. It seems a shame when having done there best all is lost for a 10 mm. fault.
And in the races?
Shrop', everybody knows my position on the white lines. Enforce it...period. The kids will soon comply. How about FIA corner enforcement. I say put a sniper at each flag station. Outside the lines?.....kaboom, there goes a tire.
Simple, if it’s just a matter of a 10mm fault just move the lines out 11mm. Or possibly a million dollar fine for each transgression and Or ban from the next gp and replace with the teams reserve driver.
It is very simple f1 drivers are supposed to be the best in the world all they have to do is keep within two white lines the rest of us mear mortals do this every day when we get in our cars if they can't manage this simple practice they shouldn't be driving!
So what happens in Monte Carlo: "Off the track equals into the wall, expensive damage / out the session / race".
The drivers/teams should just get with it and stop this incessant whining / complaining, and endure the punishment for breaking the rules (therefore trying to cheat).
Receive an immediate non-negotiable penalty, doubled for the next subsequence similar infraction, with any further subsequent ones served with immediate disqualification for that weekend.
Applicable to all tracks at all GP’s
All the teams will ultimately/eventually insure that their drivers stop this behaviour, button up & comply.
It would be to expensive/consequential not to
As long as the FIA piddle around the issue and allow the perceived reticent & discussion around this to continue, there will be a never ending "pushing of the envelope" and making it intolerable for the fans to endure this current idiotic circus.
The FIA have sufficient funds & time to get additional cameras/sensors in place & technology/programmers to set up an AUTOMATIC IMMEDIATE timing adjustment system before next season starts.
This is not a semi flexible, sometimes negotiable/appealable democracy, but a defined sport with defined rules, apply them with an iron purpose, as long as they are perfectly defined, known, clear, unambiguous, transparent and immediate.
Yeah, But what about Tonto aka Torger aka Christian, you know he runs the Fia, he has his kids to look after
HI FROM CHRIS, I STAND BY MY FIRST IDEAR JUST ADD 3 OR 2 SECONDS TO THEIR TIMES IN QUALY OR THE RACE, IT IS SO SIMPLE. NO DISPUTE NO COST, NO WORRY. AT 200 MPH. IT IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO JUDGE 10 MM. ON A WALLED CIRCUIT IT HAS ITS OWN JUSTICE. COME ON GIVE THESE GUYS A CHANCE. TO COME LAST IN THE RACE IS IN FACT AN AMAZING FEAT, WISH I COULD HAVE ACHIEVED THAT.
Chris, it is not a 10 mm judgement. It a full foot and a half of tire width, plus the width of the painted line. The entire tire must be over the line to earn a penalty. A competent driver at ANY level can make a 2 foot judgement.
HI VERY OLD RACER, AT 200 MPH IM SURE I WOULD FIND IT DIFFICULT EVEN IF IT WAS 2 FOOT. GIVE THEM A CHANCE. THE SLOWER CARS ARE SLOWER CARS. GIVE THEM A CHANCE....
Surely with all the tech in the world sensors could be used on the corners in question, it could then be done automatically.
Indeed baffling that will all possible modern technology available, FIA still doesn't use an automatic sensor system.
hi all the bodies. i think think listening to all the comments that my simple idea is the best. no technical things needed, no extra cost, no extra arguments, justice reigns. just serve 2 or 3 seconds to time.
tell Martin Brundel he can suggest it.
Just remove the flipping white lines and let the drivers find the best racing line for themselves with the road that's laid out. If they crash, that's on them.