Ferrari pushing ahead with Vettel penalty appeal
Ferrari is pushing ahead with its appeal against the controversial stewards decision that cost Sebastian Vettel victory in Canada.
There has been uncertainty about whether an appeal against the verdict would be heard by the FIA unless new evidence emerges.
But ahead of the Thursday deadline for the appeal being formally lodged, a spokesperson for the Maranello team told German news agency DPA: "We are going forward with the appeal."
Ferrari insider Leo Turrini said on his Quotidiano blog: "I doubt the appeal can happen for official reasons.
"However, the reaction has been so great that common sense could prevail."
Liberty Media, the F1 owner, is staying out of the controversy for now.
"I don't want to give an opinion on the decision, because in my position it would be wrong to do so," said sporting boss Ross Brawn.
He said he has "a lot of respect" for the stewards, but also understands "how difficult it must be" for fans of the sport to see Vettel's win taken away.
"Therefore, it might be useful to work with the FIA on solutions that would allow the stewards to explain their decisions to the fans and to elaborate on how they reached them."
Brawn also denied that the FIA stewards who came to the decision, including former driver Emanuele Pirro, have any "hidden agenda".
Mercedes boss Toto Wolff said demonising the stewards after controversial decisions means "no one will want to do the job".
Pirro, the steward in Canada, admitted he has been stung by the criticism that has come from fellow former drivers including Nigel Mansell and Mario Andretti.
"The world and racing have changed," he told Italy's Formula Passion.
"As a racing fan, I'm sorry the race ended like that. It's not easy to make these decisions, but sports integrity has to come before everything else.
"In short, reason must prevail over heart and passion," Pirro added.
Another issue in play is whether Vettel should be further penalised for his post-race tantrums, including boycotting the top three 'parc ferme' and switching the positions of the number 1 and 2 markers.
Ralf Schumacher called the latter interference of the post-race protocol "really embarrassing".
"Tantrums and insults that denigrate authority and the other competitors must be properly sanctioned, like Max Verstappen when he pushed Esteban Ocon," said Marca correspondent Marco Canseco.
"UEFA would have banned him from between six to eight races without hesitation."
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Vittel knew exactly what he was doing. Stopping Hamilton overtaking was his motive. The 5 second penalty mustn't be overturned.
F1 is just a glorified Scaletric race now, very little on the edge overtaking, so anything that adds a bit of action is a good thing. After the 5 second penalty was given Hamilton just followed Vetel around until the finish. I don't even watch the highlights any more, just listen on my app.
I'm sure your right and you could navigate the Ferrari or the Mercedes around the Canada circuit with ease. All the drivers are giving 100% so comments like this are unimportant. I understand this is your opinion which you are more than entitled to share Please see Scalectric.com for further postings.
So you think F1 is exciting as it is, that's your opinion. None of us could do what they do, including you, and I never said I could. Yes the drivers are giving 100% in a car that only offers 80% of racing fun.
Toooooooooooo many brain readers and NO Racers; But most of all home to work, work to home drivers.
F! Is dying by a thousand stupid regulations that do everything possible to stop racing. Vettel won the race fair and square, and depriving him of the victory when the incident in question was totally beyond his control is an outrage.
Vettle in my opinion knew he was going to loose first place if he did not inhibit Lewis so he did what he has done in a lot of races in the last few years, said blow you I'm going for it, he deserves more than the 5 second penalty, especially after his tantrum at the end, Lewis lost first place and had a bigger penalty for a similar event in Spa 2008
Mark,
Your facts are well stated and deserve to be considered seriously.
However your moralizing tantrum, to use your term (he did what he has done in a lot of races in the last few years, said blow you I'm going for it, he deserves more than the 5 second penalty,) is highly speculative and unsupported by evidence.
vettle cant take the presure like prost and senna to many mistakes since he start driving for farrari
emotionaly hamilton is so strong even rosburg retired cant take the presure soon vettle will retire
Hi F1 Fans, I was wondering. Hamilton said after crossing the line as 2nd, he didn't want to win like this... So I thought, why did you? You would have been a great champ if you just kept a gap to Vettel which was more than 5 sec. Would that been possible in you opinion?
Even if his inclination was to do so, which is not inconceivable, Toto would have seen to it by snarling at him "Don't you dare."
It is telling how both men now stand by the final results.
I posted Top Gear's speculative analysis, where they also accuse the stewards of complicity. (The logic being that they rushed to announce the penalty, rather than wait until the race is over. By doing that they took the pressure off Hamilton. All he had to do is tay under the 5 seconds gap. Otherwise he might have made a go for it, Vettel defended it, both cars wreck and Leclerc wins. Interesting theory but not any further fetched than the current speculations on the board.)
When a driver is in his car he is in a bubble so to speak. He has his own perspective of what has happened but is fed by his team comms. And even the teams don't have available to them the sophisticated data that the stewards have, so you simply get on with racing. He'd have felt like a right Pratt if he'd given a Magnanimous gesture and allowed a six second gap only to read the stewards report after the race that may suggest Vettels car regained control in time to keep a car width available for Hamilton. Because you don't know all the facts you have to go for it.
NO,NO,NO,The racer in the man would not allow himself to do such a thing.
Formula One is not the sport that I fell in love with in the 1970s. saving fuel ! electric cars ! total bullshit ! F1 should be about driving to the maximum that you can and being enabled to do this by unlimited tyres and fuel. The regulations have killed the sport I love. After the penalty for Sebastian Vettlel on Sunday, I switched the tv off before the end in disgust, I don't want to see hybrid cars driving round trying to save fuel and being hampered by all these stupid rules. Bring back real engines and far less restrictive rules. Look at Indycar racing in the states, they are given a free hand in fuel and tyres (mostly) and the racing is very close and exciting, iv'e never fallen asleep during their races, unlike F1
I've started watching NASCAR real engines driven to the max, multiple fuel and tyre changes, makes for more entertaining races, even though they just go round in circles!
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/villeneuve-vettel-penalty-ricciardo-canada/4467183/
“Lewis did the right thing, he managed to impose a penalty on Vettel. He’s very good at that!”